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Last night for the first time in an age we had [livejournal.com profile] alaimacerc over for a board game session. We dragged out Puerto Rico and played a three hander. [livejournal.com profile] alaimacerc's shipping strataegy looked good at first but didn't really get the money rolling and he suffered in the end game as a result. I thought I had a pretty good lock on first place, but I was surprised (pleasantly enough) to find that [livejournal.com profile] sammywol pulled up sharpish in the last couple of turns to grab first place in the tie-breaker. Final scores: 49, 49, 39, I think.

Well done, [livejournal.com profile] sammywol!
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posted by [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com at 12:49pm on 07/07/2008
As with you, we played a four-player game of Puerto Rico yesterday as well! It was one of the strangest games I've played. I started in the fourth seat, and a few things pretty much locked in my strategy:
- 1st seat chose builder, and seats 2 and 3 built small markets. Grrr. I, in turn, built the construction hut.
- 2nd seat chose settler, and since there was only one corn up it got snapped up by 3rd seat. No corn strategy for me. On a flyer, I took the lone coffee.
- 3rd seat chose mayor, to get his two corn off the ground, and I populated the hut.
- I took prospector (sic).

From this point on, I was pretty much locked in. I never generated more than two barrels of produce (one corn, one coffee). I ended up shipping for only 5 VPs in chips. However, I got a Large Market on board as my second building build (thanks to the quarries I kept acquiring from the hut), and this got me huge cash from the three goods I sold (one corn, two coffee, for a breathtaking 16 coins). In the midgame, I built the build that gets you an extra field (hacienda?).

In the end game, thanks to my four quarries, I build four of the big buildings to race the game to an early game before my opponents could get their shipping for VPs truly off the ground. This is the only time I have ever seen anyone build that many large buildings. I ended up winning the game with only 38 points.

Wow. A real freak of a game.

I suspect that I lucked out because my strategy was perfectly opposed to my competitors, especially my right-hand opponent. He constantly got squeezed into having to make decisions that were good for him, and almost as good for me (on two occasions, RHO and opponent-across-the-table chose to produce, leaving trader on the table for me, or space in the trading house for me).

Still, it was an interesting game: I marvel at Puerto RIco. It seems like a flat game after only 8 to 10 games, but play it more than that and suddenly it starts to blossom again, especially when played with others of a similar level of experience.

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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 10:11am on 08/07/2008
4 of the 10-point buildings? Crazy. That is a real freak of a game. I've never seen the big buildings get distributed in such a one-sided way.

I agree: Puerto Rico gets better after several plays once you get through a period of group think. It definitely benefits from everyone having a similar level of skill.

Maybe we should try and get a game in via Brett Spiel Welt with Joshua Kronengold [livejournal.com profile] mnemex and any other interested parties. I have to admit to being a little scared of BSW but I have to face my fear sometime.
 
posted by [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com at 02:07pm on 08/07/2008
Is BSW MacOSX-friendly? Also, I don't have skype or VoIP or anything like that...
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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 02:56pm on 08/07/2008
I think you can do everything on BSW via the web interface, so that wouldn't be a problem. I think there's an optional client but I don't know if there's a OS X version or not.

The site allows for in-game chat via an IM-like interface I think.
 
posted by [identity profile] daftnewt.livejournal.com at 11:59pm on 07/07/2008
I've never played Puerto Rico but it's there on the shelf at the games shop; I'll see if I can persuade some people into a game next games night.

Last night I tried Mission: Red Planet (a Space 1889'ish game) and a fun bidding-war card game called Stupid Vultures. It's neat how the simplest games can be the most fun sometimes.

(http://www.rainydaygames.ca/Product.asp?Product=ASMMPR01US&Name=Mission_:_RED_PLANET)
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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 10:14am on 08/07/2008
Looks pretty nice. Does it really match the 60 minute playing time on the box? We're always struggling to fit things into that 9pm-11pm slot and accurate game times are a boon when planning a board game night.

 
posted by [identity profile] daftnewt.livejournal.com at 03:05pm on 08/07/2008
It took the three of us more than an hour but we were all first-timers and puzzling things out. I think 60 minutes is reasonable for a group that knows the game well, or that has at least one member who does and is willing to be directorial :)
 
posted by [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com at 02:15pm on 08/07/2008
::clunk::

Never played Puerto Rico? God GOD man! 8) (Seriously, though, Puerto Rico is most probably one of the top five german-style boardgames of all time, and quite possibly still top-five of all boardgames of all time -- there are detractors, it's true, but still it's pretty much an essential to any collector's shelf.)

As for Mission Red Planet, I feel it has the misfortune to fall into that category of games-that-are-good-but-not-all-that-great. It seemed to me like an attempt to cleverly combine El Grande with Citadels, and, well, let's just say I'd rather own those games than Mission Red Planet. It's OK: it is not a bad game. However, if you really want top value for your money, go and purchase the current "anniversary" edition of El Grande that includes all the expansions.

Here is a list of games that anyone who plays more than a few german-style games must have in their collection, in pretty much this order:
- Puerto Rico
- El Grande
- Settlers of Catan (with perhaps the Seafarer's expansion)
- Princes of Florence
- One of Ra, Medici, or Modern Art
- One of Power Grid (+ expansion boards), Railroad Tycoon (+ RRT Europe), Age Of Steam (+ several expansions)
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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 02:58pm on 08/07/2008
I never enjoyed El Grande as much as its reputation would suggest I should.

I agree with the rest of the list, though, and would probably throw in Tigris and Euphrates and Ticket to Ride as well.

Aside: Nobody wants to play American Megafauna with me. :(
 
posted by [identity profile] daftnewt.livejournal.com at 03:13pm on 08/07/2008
Aw, I'll play it with you* :)

Never heard of it before but it looks fun. Stomp the mammals!

(*assuming an opportunity arises)
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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 05:27pm on 08/07/2008
I should have guessed you'd be on the dinos side. There's a slim chance of getting bow-wielding social dinos by the Cretaceous, so it's right up your street.

 
posted by [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com at 05:46pm on 08/07/2008
Yes, I realize my choices lean to the heavier side. For that last line, perhaps I should have:

- A Rail Game: one of Ticket To Ride, Union Pacific, RRT (+ Europe), Power Grid (+ expansions), Age Of Steam (+ expansions), or 18xx (that's a whole new argument, and they're not german-style games, really).

As for El Grande -- is it area majority you object to? If not, can you think of a better exemplar of that sort of game? I cannot, really. (I can think of ones I enjoy more, but I cannot think of a better fundamental example.)
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posted by [personal profile] mylescorcoran at 06:21pm on 08/07/2008
No, I rather like area majority games and I agree that El Grande is practically the archetype of the class, it's just that I don't enjoy it as much as San Marco, for example.

So I take your point about examples of core German board game design. I just wouldn't actually play El Grande that often. The same is true of Settlers of Catan, a game I have gone off after many plays unlike Puerto Rico.


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